Hello, and welcome.

Hi. Thank you very much.

Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming, and people are going to see a thing over your forehead saying your default speaker has changed. Thank you, Zoom. I appreciate that. It's exactly what I wanted right now. Do want to tell us a bit more well, bit about yourself and, yeah, what what we're what we're gonna be doing right now?

Well, yeah, I'm Rutger den Hollander from The Netherlands, And I have ADHD, not a little bit, but very much. Also I am autistic. And, yeah, I'm very happy that I have that. And what I did is I started in The Netherlands with making an app for people with ADHD. That was eight years ago. And I made it together with professor Sandra Coy, well known in the world also for ADHD. And now I have teamed up to make one special app for all the people with ADHD and autism also in the in The UK. And I'm doing that together with psychiatry UK. And yeah, if it is possible then I would like to to show you something that we are making now and is special for people to to help themselves. Because yeah, when you have your diagnosis.

Then it only is starting. And yeah, ADHD you have it not for a few minutes or a few years, but you have it your total life. So it's possible I can show yeah. This is my my presentation. This is our little robot. He is helping everybody to to help you with your symptoms. You can go to the next screen. And so we are making an health and lifestyle planning app because, yeah, ADHD, you don't have it only in your head, but then it goes from the morning to the evening. You will have problems with it and you must find your superpowers that will help you to conquer, yeah, your world and to make you much happier. You can go to the next screen. And so what I've made, I've made an ADHD platform.

I'm self patient. Everybody who works in our office is also has also have ADHD. I don't feel like a patient, know, I'm not sick. I'm not in the hospital. And we work together with specialists and now we work together with the the specialists from psychiatry UK. In The Netherlands, it is also paid by the insurance companies and The UK it will be paid by the NHS. We can go to the next screen. So what is very important in our life is that we have two times. We have now and not now. And I knew that I had have to give this presentation a few months ago, but a few months ago it was not now. And one week ago it was also not now. Yesterday it was also not now.

This morning it was also not now. And one hour ago, yeah. Think that's when you sent it. When did you send it in to us? When did we get when did we get it? Yeah. I think thirty minutes ago. So one hour ago. And then it was now. So that is the the main thing what we have is the whole life. Yeah. Every time, you know, we are doing things at the last time or mostly it it will be too late or just on time. So that's why also my presentation. Yeah. I wish you received it one hour ago. Well, thank you.

Right. Should we go back? We'll go back to the the presentation. I'm gonna try and bring your video into it so people can see it. So they'll see to you. And yes.

Yeah. You can you can go to the next one. Yeah. So it is not now that was yeah. Yesterday, also not now. This morning, it was also not now. You can go to the next screen. And then, you know, yeah, people are calling me and saying, you have to give the presentation. You have to send it. Please, please send it now to us. Yeah. You can go to the to the next screen. That was that was wonderful. Christine chasing you. So thank you. Yeah. Christine was chasing me. Thank you very much, Christine. You know, I got a lot of emails from you. No. But that is that is not needed. So for me, you know, it is like this. I am relaxing. I know always, you know, I will do it. You go can go to the next screen.

But, yeah, I can imagine that Christine is doing like this. And, yeah, that is what we see, you know, a lot of times that other people are thinking, what the are you doing? And we don't. We think, you know, don't sweat it will come. You can go to the next screen. So what our goal is for our the help app because it's called the help app is helping patients to help themselves. Because yeah, you can have a diagnosis, you can have medication, you can also have a treatment, but then you have to do it by yourself, your total life. And for me also personally, it is I wanted to stop surviving and I wanted to live a happy life. It feels when you have ADHD that you have to survive every day and things are going.

A lot of things got going wrong and every time you have to get up, you have to get up. So I want to stop surviving and going to living and find my ADHD superpowers. So then I, you know, will be much more happier with my life and everything will go much easier. So how do we do it? Well, we have made a self management toolkit with specialists and there are more than three fifty tools in there. There I will show you later. Also, there's also a community in it And what is important is the titration and a safeguarding from psychiatry UK. So the specialists, the doctors, the nurses, they will do the titration with you to make sure that you will have also the right medication. And after that, you will have your self management programs.

So with ADHD, it is not like abracadabra. You know? I just want I want to solve all my problems. I just can sleep at once. You have to do something for it. And we want to do things, but only we don't know what to do. So when we got a diagnosis, we're thinking, okay. And now and now what? But then a lot of times you get in a very big waiting list, and you don't want that. So also people are not going to in a waiting list anymore for Psych IT UK. They will just time directly also with the help. And this is how we look every time. You know? We want to start. We want to start. And we always start too late. And that's why we make the app so you can already start with yourself and with help from other people.

So this is the starting point in our app. You get a dashboard, and then you see our little robot. He will greet you every day, every morning, every evening, and he will help you. So he will help you to make an agenda. And with the agenda, you can, for example, put I take Orphans fifty milligrams every day. It helps me very much. And I take it two times per day. And then you could also get reminders from our little robot. So you don't forget it. We also have made, I'll show you later, a medication box with Bluetooth and it connects to the app. And then when you need to get your medication, you take it from your medication box, and then it gives directly a sign with Bluetooth to the to the app that you've taken your medication.

For everything, what you will see, you will also get rewarded. And that is a very important in our minds because then we get dopamine, and then you want to do more and more. We also you see it here, I have black screen and white screen. But, yeah, a lot of people with ADHD, white comes too hard to us, light also, and then that's why we have made also a black version for it. You're you're you're muted now. I pressed the button.

I did. Something we wanted to tell people about is that we do have q and a. So, like, if they go to globaladhd.com, they can upload their questions so do do that. If you've got a question you want to ask upload it there. Please. Because we're on multiple platforms so on LinkedIn, on Facebook, on YouTube there's lots of places for people to comment. Are like we are focused on looking at them in the adhd globaladhd.com platform as a sort of central place to do that. So because you're saying really interesting things. Wanted people to know that that was a that was an option. Right. Back to you. I presume you would like a new slide.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay. Please. Show me. So what we want for people is we have an help toolkit. It's evidence based and there are different tools in it. You can show the next one. We want people to help with everything that they come through, you know, on the day. So we have courses like an ADHD basic course or what is autism, a course about depression.

And everything to help you, for example, sleep better in twelve weeks. It must be very useful and very powerful. Otherwise, you know, we stop doing it. We have also things about manage weight, quit a bit habits, and help you with money problems, doing self test because that is a benefit of having ADHD. We have everything. You know, we don't have only ADHD. We also have autism. We also have anxiety. We also have some depression. We also have eating disorders. And for me, you know, it's great because then we can help much, much more people with that. So here we have a lot of tools. You can go to the next screen. Self help programs, self test, meditations, for example. We have made meditations.

Because sometimes, you know, we can get angry suddenly, and then we have a meditation for, like, three minutes or one minute who can help you, you know, to get rid of that anger. So then you're putting your meditation on, you click on start, and then it will help you. You can also follow how you were sleeping. We connect that to a bracelet, and then you can see how much you're sleeping, but also why did you sleep not right. I found out before, example, that when I play play tennis until 10:00 in the evening, then I was having.

Had a level of problems with sleeping until two in the night or three in the night. So I stopped doing that until 10:00, but I stopped at 08:00 in the evening. And then I was sleeping around twelve, so that was better for me. That's why I I I learned it from filling in this in the app. You can go to the next one. So what, for example, we also learn people is fairly simple tools there is. We have a lot of stress in our head. A lot of people have ADHD. When they are peeing, they don't empty the bladder totally. So when you're going to sleep, a lot of times you get wake up in the night because you have to go to the bathroom. What you can do then and what we learn people is to close your eyes.

And to have something like a sleeping cloth over your head, over your eyes, and then pee. Because when you do that, then you enter your bladder, like, 90%, and you don't have, like, 20 or 25% left in your bladder. And that's why then you will not get up in the evening or in the night that you have to go to the bathroom. It's very simple, but it's very helpful because that's why you can sleep much, much better and more hours in the night.

A lot of people know with ADHD, you also know when you are in the car and you or you have to go away and you're thinking, no. No. I don't have to go to the bathroom. You go and in five minutes, shit. I have to go to the bathroom. Well, that is the same. So when you go to the bathroom, close your eyes and then pee, and then much much more will be gone.

Sorry. I'm totally intrigued by this. This is news to me. We close the pressure. Don't don't yeah. It's done. Go on. We will get back to it. The people with ADHD, and I I'm just checking this as regardless of gender because you've got as a little boy, you've got peeing. Yeah. They they tend not to empty their bladder. Is that is that what Yeah. And and why teaching that is? Well, and and sorry. It is because the.

Connection between your brains that give the sign to the bladder is not working fully for people with ADHD because of, you know, yeah, the the we have a lot of stress in our heads, you know, because of the hormones and that's why we don't give the signal directly to the bladder. Especially for women, there's a problem because a lot of people, women with ADHD have bladder problems. Sorry. Yeah. Excuse me for my for my English. They have problems, you know, with peeing also. And with men, it is a lot that you have to go to the bathroom a lot in the night or, yeah, where, you know, where you are in the car and you're thinking, ah, shit. I had to go to the bathroom. I didn't empty my bladder. But it is for everybody. Yeah.

And that's due to the lack of the a missing a missing connect a connection in the brain? Yeah. The connection is not.

Fully like normal people.

Okay. The solution is to be aware of it so you do empty your bladder and and what you said something about covering your eyes.

Yeah. You know, you have the the sleeping, yeah, covers for your eyes where you then then it's totally dark and that's best when you do that. So you go to the bathroom. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. You go to the bathroom, you you make everything dark or you close your eyes or it's even better, you know, to put something above your eyes and then just pee. And then, you know, like 95% it will go out of your bladder.

I hope, like, I I imagine who like, you live with someone, imagine they very much hope you you sit down when you pee. Well, yeah.

I'm doing it already now for twenty five years. So, you know, I had a fight with my wife and with my but my daughter, she's now 20 years old, but I I do it always for them. Yeah. You're right. Otherwise, you have a problem. Yeah. That's very dangerous.

Very dangerous. Right. Back to slides. Like, it's So.

So this is something that we we we learn people, and it's very handy. For example, the binge watching. You know, people with ADHD, we tend to binge watch a lot because, yeah, you know, we we when we like something like Suits. I watched Suits, all the episodes, all the total sharing in, like, yeah, seven days or something. So, yeah, then you're watching until 04:00, 05:00 in the morning and then you had to get up for work at 08:00. Well, then your ADHD symptoms are, you know, skyrocketing. So that's why we learn people, for example, not to stop at the end because then you have a cliffhanger, but stop at 50%. And when you have stop at 50% of one episode.

Then you don't want to see the next episode. And that will save for me, it saves a lot of times, you know, of sleeping. So that's a very simple thing what we learn people how to binge watch less. Making up your bed. A lot of people with ADHD and autism and anxiety and depression, we have a sleeping problem. So for example, a very simple thing that we learn people is making up your bed. Because when you are making up your bed, you will sleep better. It is science proven. It is also that your brain is then more wired that your bed is your bed for sleeping and you close also your sleeping habits in the morning. And your brain knows when it comes to bed, he sees a very neat and tidy bed. This is for sleeping.

We see it now in app. We do a lot of tests with our users and patients and, like, 600 to 50 people in The Netherlands also. Every morning, they will make up their beds and that's why they're sleeping better. It's a small thing, but it helps a lot.

Oh, wow. Okay. Do you want the next slide? Yeah. Well, I will show you some more.

What we're also using is a lot of rewards and fun because if something is not fun, then we are not doing it. Your brains don't like things that are not fun. So for our users, we call them helpers. They get help to rewards. Helps are coins and what you can buy, you can show to the next screen. We just have simple shop items like t shirt, like hoodies, like yoga mats for example or healthy books. But you can also donate to help other donations to help people in Ukraine for example or in Pakistan. It is all that when you're doing something, it also must give you fun, but also with that you're getting rewards, you're getting dopamine. And our brains, yeah, we have a lack of dopamine.

We work on dopamine. So that's why you your brain wants to do things because you get those rewards. That is the end of my presentation. Now you can ask me all the questions.

Oh, is it like, well, you've there's there's more slides.

Yeah. I know. I know. But then, you know, then I'm I'm showing that has to be shown, surely. Like, it's wonderful. Is this how you felt when you, like, sent it in thirty minutes ago? You're like, dude, this is me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is me. Yeah. I've done it. So I reward myself. So I've taken some something to eat and something to drink to reward myself also. But it's it's important, you know, that that you are rewarding yourself and that is what we do also in the app. We give people a lot of rewards for everything what they do. Because we tend to do a lot of things not, you know. I'm the king of making to do list, but I'm also the king of not doing anything from my to do list. And and now everything what you will do in our app also.

Will give you rewards. And we know that it's important and and we know also that it's it is working. So we also have challenges, then you can join the challenge and you know when you win a challenge or when you join the challenge together with all people, then you will all get rewarded for that.

So there's there's team challenges to to complete? Yeah.

Yeah. Because what we see is that people wants to help each other, especially people with ADHD. You know, we want to help everybody, also ourselves, but we forget a lot of times to help ourselves. But we want to help others and that is for us also very important. There is we have a community in our app and that people can talk with each other about it, but also there are also experts in it. And experts will also help people with questions, with q and a to help further. Peer support is something very important because why we tend to listen and to learn much more from people who also have ADHD. Yeah. You can go to the next one. So there are a lot of groups, different groups, know. For example, women with ADHD. We had a lot of questions from.

Females whose women who said, yeah, I have a little I have a baby now, but how I can I raise my baby? You know, I have ADHD and there's a little bit of an issue. But then we have made a special group for that kind of users and then they also can help each other and we're looking for an expert who can also help them. You can go to the next one.

On the superhero analogy, I I think I said with with with Meg earlier, it's it's my it's my favorite thing to go to when it's mentioned, is that I find the superhero analogy can be quite undermining. It has a positive side of saying like, got a superhero. Yeah. But it's also quite undermining because like I there's a lot of moments where I do not feel like a superhero at all. Fact, it's the exact opposite. And and actually people saying, oh, you've got a superpower can be quite undermining when life's very, very difficult. Really, really it is. And so.

The way I've tried to neuter that argument or and and retain the nice aspect of it is to say, like, you know, yes, if you know, yeah. I'm agreeing. We've got the super, but the only problem is, like, this world is littered with kryptonite. And A lot of kryptonite. Yeah. Of kryptonite. And some of there were people kryptonite. And there's object kryptonite, there's task kryptonite. But, like and I find it a helpful analogy because then it's like, right. Okay. Like, if I'm to access, like, those real strengths of hyper you know, super flow, hyper focus, I have to deal with the kryptonite. And and that then I think becomes quite useful without and that kryptonite can also be within inside you, within your own anatomy, so I can see.

A lot of what you're trying to do.

That's what what you I I think that is almost the most beautiful thing I heard in in in a few months what you're saying now. Nice. That is it is really that is it. That it yeah. That is what it is. You know? It is also what you see every day when you get up out of bed, when you are talking to people, when you're going to work, when you're seeing people on the street. It is all kryptonite for you. It is the light. It is the sound. It is people. It is so much things. And but I tend to see, you know, more the superpowers in me that are much, much stronger than the kryptonite because that is, I think, also the the superpower of ADHD.

We always tend to get up. We fall down and we get up. We fall down and we get up. But we get up more than we fall down. But that is also what what what is I think important to also let people know that is it is so hard, you know. It is not just something like I have a headache for a few minutes. No. Really things are really, really, really hard. And for me, there's a lot of times that you're thinking I'm surviving instead of I'm living. And that is why I want to help people to start living again and not survive.

I think that's a important statement. It's only where we are and what I'm personally at as well, which is helping people with ADHD thrive. We know they can be absolutely wonderful successes and getting all that they look to want to achieve out of life. We also know that people can be completely constrained and that people can be put in situations of of kryptonite of massive problems. Yeah. And that can be a bad work environment or it can be a know? Yeah. But it can also be not having the systems in place that that can release you. Yeah.

Or or or a little thing, you know, just don't that they don't want to open their mail. And if they don't open their mail, you know, they get a lot of people on the door that demanding money from them, and they're getting in in in money problems. And that will give them so much stress and will make the ADHD much worse. So we also learn people just to open their mail. It's for a lot of people it sounds very simple, but not for us. But it can give you mail not milk.

Cause I heard milk first. Oh, sorry. And I thought it was an analogy. Oh, look, you're Post speaking like post mail. Yeah. I certainly I'm I'm criminal. Do not open mail very often. And Yeah. I've actually kinda made peace with that. Yeah. You're right. Right. So But it's not not never. It's definitely it's every like week, two weeks.

Yeah. Yeah. I I know I know I did it also and then yeah. I learned myself in another way, you know, to to open it and to for example, also I have a lot of voice mails and I never tended to listen to them. But now I got a remark, you know, a a a phone sound that is very cheerful. And that's why every time, you know, I just pick up my phone because I'm cheerful. And before that, you know, I didn't want to do it. So you are trying to to cope and to make everything much more fun and and and healthier for yourself.

That's fascinating. Well done for people who've put some questions in. So go to globaladhd.com and you'll see the Q and A section. Can put some questions in. We'll come to those. Are there a couple just a few more slides? And obviously, do donate. Like, this is a charity enterprise, and you're very kind in giving your time. There's no No problem at all. And it's very, very generous and appreciative of you. No one's getting paid. Everyone's doing it for their love and the cause and to try and make change. So thank you. Thank you. Right back to your I've I've To help people, you know, that is the most important thing that we all want to do.

Yeah. Maybe we could show you some some slides. So here, you know, we have a lot of groups. You can go to the to the next one. The groups are important for the peer support. The monitoring is also if in PUK important because we do checkups, and that will be done by the nurses and the doctors. And then they will follow you, you know, what's your heartbeat, what is your weight, how do are you feeling taking your medication, how is it with your sleep. So they can monitor you and they can help you better. You can go to the next one. We do this with bracelets and with smartwatches. So then ultimately.

All this information, all this data will be sent to the app and then a nurse and the doctors can follow that if you want it. So if you say yes, then they can follow you and they can help you much better. And that's also very important for your medication because to take your medication at the right rate, you need to for example, this pillbox. We've made a pillbox and that will be connected to the app. If you're taking your medication, it will give a sign to them to the app that you've taken your medication. And then you can also get your rewards. Because a lot of times then I think, shit, did I forgot to take my medication? Yes or no? And I'm not going to take it another time. And this will help you, you know, to reminder and not to forget.

And that is important also that you get in contact with people and in contact. So we have some nurse or we have the doctor who is doing your titration and that goes then through the app. So when you have a question for them, you can ask them a question also with a secure chat and you can send them a chat to the app and they will ask you also questions and they can help you much better. So the safeguarding is an important part in our app. You get the support, you can call, you can send a message, you can do it through WhatsApp.

Well, this is not from us. I heard that from me. That popped up on the screen.

I thought I never saw that before in our app, but okay. And we are ISO two thousand seven one compliant and GDPR compliant. And that's important because people must feel that they are safe in this environment. So it does not just like Facebook or like Twitter or something else. You're in a secure environment. You're also there you can ask people questions and people will also help you and you are anonymous there. So people will never know who you are if you don't want that. We have a big safeguarding team who always take care of you and make sure you know that nothing strange will happen and otherwise people will be removed if something will happen what we don't like. And our little robots can always help you. We have the FAQs.

Support videos, and very important contact support. So you can always call or send a message through the app or through WhatsApp. And, yeah, this is our helper and what we want is that people will be happier, will be more happier in their life and that we can support them to our app after also the diagnosis and after that they have given medication. That's it.

Well, that was it's fantastically done and well done for putting it off half an hour before it was due. So we have had a couple of questions sent in. And do other people who put your questions into globaladhd.com. Q and A is where to do it and obviously I possibly will labor this point but do donate. All donations get shared between the organizing charities ADHD UK, Us, ADHD New Zealand who you'll see a lot more of during the night and ADHD South Africa who you'll see in the morning. So the, I think they're both, we've got two questions so far and they're both quite similar But it's really how to get it. It's when is it available and where is it available. And bear in mind, we are a global conference of 55 countries represented.

I know. The there are obviously people keen keen to know how to get it. So I I can see that yeah. So over to you. In the in the beginning, it will now be available for the patients from PUK.

And it doesn't matter where they are. They can be in The UK. They can be in Germany. They can be in New Zealand. Everybody can can use them the app freely. After a while, it will be also available for for other people, you know, in in in or also in other countries. And then we have to also translate it. So first, we are starting the English version in The UK and after a while, we will start also for other countries.

So it's it's UK only and only through Psychiatry UK. So they have they have In in the beginning. They have it exclusively at the moment.

Yeah. We we we make it together. Yeah. Yeah. We we we make the app together, and it's just for the patients from from PUK. That's why what what we started for. And PUK has a lot of patients per year. So we first start helping them and then we will learn a lot from also what is working very good and also things that are working not so good and then we will change things and make it better. And every day we want to make it better and better and better. And yeah, then also eventually it will be available for other people also.

Fantastic. And I think that's important. One of the things we're trying to do is a conference and one of the things that and it's exciting having you here. It's like, look, we are talking about stuff which is at the cutting edge of of ADHD where we're trying to look at stuff where there's change. So for people to advocate for it in their own territories, in their own parts Yeah, of the because that's where we want to be, right? We want to be changing it. And I think one of the things that I think is particularly interesting and exciting about what you're doing is it's a really significant effort in the post diagnosis part of ADHD. Certainly in The UK, within the NHS. And I think it's important to take psychiatry off.

The Right to Choose, are an NHS provider. A lot of it can be just like it certainly was in my case, here's your diagnosis, like medication, yes, no, see you. And then I can Bye. Bye.

Good luck.

Completely honestly, one of the reasons I founded the charity was like it just it was very clearly a massive problem that you couldn't find the support, the help, the ideas, the strategies, the solutions like Justin and then I'd find myself reading stuff and it was focused on kids and you know.

Like working at a desk like this is not used to be at all and No. And and that that is what we want to provide. That's why there are more than 350 tools because not one tool helps everybody. It's especially, you know, it's personal. For me something will help and for you something else will help. And that's why we are putting so many tools there that you don't have to look for yourself. It is evidence based and it will help you after the diagnosis and after medication but but because then really it starts. You know. You have the diagnosis that is perfect when you have the medication. It's also great. But yeah, then your life it is not over, you know. Then then it all starts the adventure.

Thank you. And there it is. Actually, and I think that particularly, that's where the thriving comes from. It comes from the diagnosis or the met for we use. Let's see, like I did well with my metaphor on kryptonite. Let's see how I go with this. The metaphor we use is that pre diagnosis, it's like you're in a maze and the lights are off and you're banging into walls. You're knocking things over. You're hitting your legs. You're bruising and hurting yourself. And you're seeing other people navigate, like, and and it's just seems so much more simple for them. The diagnosis the lights up. Yes, your maze remains more complicated than it does for many, but at least now you can see it and you can navigate it and you can plot your course.

So to take that Stop blaming yourself also.

Yeah. And just yeah. It's that that is a very important aspect to kind of let let some of those things go to know know that well, actually, let's celebrate you, like arriving like sending in your presentation thirty minutes beforehand and and and of going, and oops, I totally sent it in. Like, this is success people. And and I Yeah. Have ADHD No problem to at all. An ADHD Conference. I'm pretty sure these people are gonna understand. And, like, apart from making Christine sweat, like, I was unaware of these things, who's the wonderful person behind sees who's been organizing everything honestly. Incredible. Yeah. But yeah. And but you in terms of letting yourself, you were.

Like, not upset about it. You weren't worried, but that's the bit where it's a it's a Oh, the other people.

You know, the the other people are worrying a lot of times. And and when you are more confident about yourself, also about your ADHD, It comes in the years. I see it also. So I see when I'm now much more happier with myself and with the things that I'm doing. And then also my ADHD symptoms are less or I have less problems with them. So I don't think they are less, but I have less problems with them. And also I see that other people have less problems with them.

So well done everyone who's gone to globaladhd.com and gone to the q and a section and added their questions. We do have a whole load more now and you've been upvoting as well. Absolutely brilliant. Obviously, don't forget to donate. Do do you consider donating? Gotta say it. I will say it at a loss. This is the base Yeah. They have to it. Mate. And I get it. Mean, we probably should be taking very calls, but, like, it's like, we only had this idea twelve weeks. So most of it is when when it will when will it be available. So do you have like a date or like it's just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we we we are starting with the the first patients we already started.

And it will be for because you have UK has a lot of patients every month. For the the mass amount of patients, it will start in the January 1.

Okay. Nice. It's a specific answer.

Dangerous deadline, my friend. Yeah. We we are. No. No. No. Sorry. No. Because we are always we are ready. No. We we we we are ready now, and we are now just.

Inviting patients, you know, to test it. And then we are learning already from we've had it with and it's got a few upvotes. Like, I'm under psychology k. How do I get access? App looks amazing. Do you think if they ping them a message saying, please, can I be part of the trial that that might.

Yeah? Yeah. Absolutely. You know, yeah, they can send an an email to them and they can ask for me and then, you know, directly I will give them an answer and I'm very happy to give them a test version and they can help us test them.

Nice. Okay. So you you right. So you're getting a lot of emails now.

Great. No problem at all. We've had a.

Question which has got a good number of upvotes which is how do hormones affect women with ADHD. I'm actually going to hold you off on that. So we're having a section later on this on medication ADHD and that person is specifically going to talk also about ADHD in women and hormones. So there and it's a should look at the schedules and make sure I actually know the name but like it's a lady who's the research scientist who's the researcher for one of the major ADHD medications and is very focused on this issue. Will it integrate with other things? So you've said you've got all the different parts of the different tools within it, but does it integrate with things like Microsoft Office calendar, Gmail calendar for example? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it will also integrate with your smartphone calendars that you have have you on your smartphone. And so it will put also the things that that you're putting your agenda. It will also show there. Yep. Or you when you have a Fitbit like or a Apple Watch, it can also connect to that.

The man's got the answers, people. It's fantastic. We there's a question, do you have to be a PUK patient to access all the app services? I I presume the answer right now is yes.

It will now be rolled out wider in the future. But no no future date, just to clarify on that. No. No. No. No. Not yet. No. No. Because we first start with all The UK patients.

Okay. I've got one. I think I think we're gonna finally nail you because, like, every single answer so far, you've you've scored like a gold star like and like all had the answer. Like it's wonderful. So like I'm supposed to be like you know hard hard looking hard interviewer. No, please. No, I'm not. Completely not that. The but let's see. So someone's asked about the link between Elliot Danlos and neurodiversity, but actually it's a bigger question, which is the app sounds amazing. Would it include something for Eliot Danlos, EDS and hypermobility.

As well as seeing the co concurrence between ADHD and autism? I think the co concurrence question is the core bit here. Yeah. Yeah. That is That that then makes it into a very big world. So what are you doing around that?

Yeah. We're already doing that because, yeah, nobody has only have ADHD. You know, that is the the the great thing from us. We have a lot of things. So all those things will be also put in there by the experts. So for everything for autism, for depression, eating disorders, alcohol abuse, different things. All those things will be in there also or already in there. And every month, every week we are adding extra things.

And that's so that's adding adding in additional tools and and and information.

Yeah. Programs and and and different habits, but also different communities, different q and a's, webinars.

No. Brilliant. Okay. Like, isn't this very right. It's I I think that sounds wonderful. I do it's you know, I look forward to very, very much to seeing where it's going. Like, it's.

Yeah. You know, you can also be a test tank.

Well, that's very kind. I would like I I don't know if I should admit. I'm not part of the p u k ecosystem. So, like, I'm not sure. I'm quite eligible, but it's we'll if we can work something Because a very kind offer. Yeah. But it's going to the whole of The UK in January and then wider group later. Yeah. Yeah. Which is very important. Obviously, like, we need to get the resources to everyone. So that's an important thing. Yeah. Right. As the interviewer, I get to ask the last question. And, like, oh, oh, it's tricky. Like, should I be late for the next segment and ask two questions? He's got he's got a plane to catch. Oh, apparently, you got a plane to catch.

Yeah. A little bit ADHD. You know? I I have to go to the airport. Otherwise, I'm too late for my plane to the to London.

Oh, that's in London. He should've died live. Well.

I mean, it is live. Sorry. But, like, you know, But don't worry. Okay. Fine. I will an either I and then and and a meeting and a presentation for the nurses for p u k for the titration to to implement it in the right way. So that's why I have to fly there. Fair enough. Take your time. You know, I I have to Am.

I allowed like three minutes while I get away with that? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. No problem. Okay. I think every day. It's like, it's not like you know normally. But they are quick because we are running because we're the next thing to go to. In your ADHD journey so far and your the the impacts of ADHD to you so far, what has made you happiest and what has made you saddest? It's the impact of ADHD on you personally.

Yeah. The saddest, really, really, really the saddest and it was also the part why I was looking for for help for for medication. This was when we have my children and they were young, they were born. And that was for me the saddest one that I have to focus to be focused on them. So I had to get my mind off all other things, work and other things, and to really be focused on them. And then I thought this is really shit, you know. Those are my children. Those are the most important ones and I need to focus to be with them. And I don't want that because I just want 100% be with them and not thinking about other things. And that was for me the saddest part and also the point that I wanted to to have help and to find medication. And I did. And.

Yeah, the happiest part is is that I can help so many people with an an app. I received a letter from the user from a patient and she said, my life is 10 times better and happier when I started using the app. And I'm not feeling lonely anymore, and now I can live more happier. And that's why we are doing it.

That's the only thing we are doing it for. Okay. And then thank you. And those and thank you for sharing. That's a that's obviously a big share and and thank you. It's a it's a question I try and ask people, most people I bump into with ADHD because it connects with the emotion of ADHD and the impact it's important and I think it brings a lot out. Okay and then my truly final question. How long has that Christmas tree been up behind you?

Every day. Because every day is a holiday. So that's why I have every day a Christmas tree. So it's not about ADHD that I forgot it or no. I I have it standard in my office every day is a holiday. So that's why and I also like snow, so it is also snow on the Christmas tree next to Superman.

Fantastic. You've been absolutely wonderful. It's very exciting to hear about your app. I think it's an important area of the the sort of post diagnosis area is incredibly It's obviously at the cutting edge and sadly exclusively with The UK at the moment, coming out wider in the future. Does have to get developed somewhere and think a very important exciting thing to look at more formalized post diagnosis programs because right now, particularly in The UK, there is nothing. Like it's just No. That's why we are making it. Thank you very much. We'll say say goodbye now, and thank you very, very much. And thank.

You again. Good luck. And I hope you're not too late for fun. Yeah. Maybe I'll see you in London. That'd be wonderful. At some point, let's do that. Bye bye. Thank you very, very Thank you. Bye bye. He's absolutely wonderful and thank you for him, for his time and hugely hugely appreciated. I hope people valued and enjoyed learning about that. I think the post diagnosis phase is so important. Well done those who voted, who went into the app and made those changes. That's incredibly so I put their Q and A in. That's how we're doing it. Do you consider boosting?

You put in a donation it boosts it at the top. Like it was my prize idea only like about two weeks ago. We have a team of volunteer all with ADHD developers who've been making this Q and A thing work who then built in the donate bus as well. They've been absolutely fantastic. And if you are a coder and want to get involved do consider it. To our ADHD UK, get involved and you'll see a link if that arranges a meeting with me to talk about what we're up to.