Next up is Beyond Limits with Simon Blair, entrepreneur, endurance athlete, and ADHD UK ambassador. And that's closing our first day, and it's something very special. He is the founder and CEO of SHB Real Estate in Covent Garden. He's an endurance athlete and he's diagnosed with ADHD later in life. He took the Marathon des Sables 250 kilometers across the Sahara, often called the toughest foot race in... On Earth. And in 2021, it beat him and he pulled out on day three. The result is... So he went back and he took a film crew with him. The result is Beyond Limits, an award winning documentary about ADHD, Failure and Resilience. It's now on Amazon Prime and video, but as of tomorrow, it will be available to all.

Since since his exhibition, he's on racing the Arctic, and more recently, 230 kilometers in Kenya, and he did a Beyond Limits fundraiser raising more than £6,000 for ADHD UK. And tonight, you'll see my conversation with Simon followed by the very first screening of his brand new twenty minute cut of Beyond Limits that is going to be free, available on YouTube from tomorrow. But this is... And it's for for ADHD awareness month. But this is an exclusive early screening of it. So we're starting the conversation with me, interviewing him about it, and then handing over to the screen. Because the first UK day of the Global ADHD Conference is something very, very special.

Two years ago, Simon Blair sat with us and showed us a few clips of a film he'd just made about his ADHD and the Sahara. Since then, he's been on Amazon Prime. He's become an ADHD UK ambassador. And in a few minutes, you'll see a twenty minute cut of Beyond Limits. And we'd to think of ourselves as the large premier of this on streaming services. Welcome, Simon. Hi, Henry. How are doing? I'm doing great. Thank you for being here tonight and very very excited for this. And excited to be part of this, the journey. And I mean, the film, which I absolutely adore and was not Okay. For when you did the premiere and I Yeah. Explored my face huge on the cinema screen. Yeah.

Little bit a bit of thrilling there, I'm sure, somewhere.

Okay. Look, for anyone meeting you for the first time tonight, like, who is Simon Blair?

So I am a 47 year old man who has got three children. I'm married, live near Cambridge in a village called Melbourne. I grew up in South London, you know, so I was always surrounded by London and kind of busyness. And I've got... You know, my three kids are... They're beautiful ages. They're 14, 12, and 10 years old. I've got two businesses that I run-in Central London, which are all property orientated. And I I, like... I pretend in somebody who's gone from team sport, playing a lot of cricket and rugby up until my mid thirties. And then since then, I've discovered ultra running, particularly the the multistage ultra marathons. And I've been lucky enough to travel all over the world, you know, using running to kinda temper.

Myself and try and find balance. You know? But I'm I'm very lucky that that I've got something that I can I can really hold on to, and that allows me to try and be, you know, as good I'm certainly imperfect, but it allows me the ability to try and be the better or the best person or version of myself that I can? And you're... Look, you're an ADHD successful story. You're an inspiration. Your success is wonderful to see and to celebrate.

Obviously didn't start with that. Time you said your school reports read noisy, disruptive, could do better, of potential, something I think a lot of us remember, and we have to put our school reports in if we have them when we're getting assessed, because the signs of ADHD are often so obvious. Yeah. When read without understanding. Just wanted to ask, so what did that boy need that nobody gave him?

I think, you know, I had a I had a quite unique upbringing in some ways. You know, my my parents broke up when I was quite young. So I was I just lived with my father from the age of five or six years old. And I lived in a, you know, relatively small house in in Hampton in South London, and, you know, we didn't have any... I mean, all of my family on my mother's side, you know, lived in... They've all moved to South Africa a number of years before I was born, and my father was adopted. So we didn't have really any visitors from the family side, and I and I was... For quite a long time, like, I didn't have a particularly good... Well, I didn't have any relationship with my my mother.

And that kind of reestablished itself for the... A little bit down the line. So I'd say I lived I lived a pretty lonely existence in some ways looking back. I mean, I I I never felt that I had a particularly bad upbringing at the time, but I I think there was a, you know, there was an influence of alcohol in my life when I was growing up and gambling, general addictions, I would say, which meant that I was kind of isolated, I think. I I think there was... But I think the thing about addiction is it it takes away certain types of meaningful interactions. So love, I'd say, is, you know, something that gets banded around, and maybe I was lacking a certain type of human human interaction. But, I mean, I I found...

Actually, as I got older quite quickly, I found solutions to this. You know? I I really got into team sport very early. You know, I really connected with that. And in particular, I was attracted to the the people in that space. You said that. You said walking into a cricket club at 14, you saw 40 grown men celebrating. Yeah. And it made you feel like you belonged somewhere. Unbelievable. I mean, I... Because I I was... When... Before that, I was roaming around, you know You know, I was just trying to find things to do and people to hang around with. And, you know, I I had my own groups of friends, and I'd go out on my bike, and I'd go fishing. School was... I I despised.

School, really. I said it was a very, very hard place for me to feel like I belonged. And I I, you know, I I I found it very challenging for all sorts of reasons. And I think educationally, I was behind the curve. And, you know, I I really had to do things later to really try and catch up in my own way. I was quite disciplined around that. When I went to the cricket club, a friend of mine's brother played for an adult club, and I... I'd already started playing colt cricket. And it was a real, really enabling thing for me to bowl. Right? I found just an immediate connection with it. I could just run-in, let all my energy just go back to my run up, pick up the ball, go back, do it again. I was able to just really.

Fire out, you know, these these electricity that would would normally just fly out of me at all angles. So it was brilliant. But when I got taken to the cricket club, again, there were three or four of us, I think. But it was the end of a cricket season in, like, I don't know, 1993 or 1994, and all these men were just inside this quite... You know, have... It's not a brilliant building. It was just a pretty average, dilapidated space, and they were all just connected and having this incredible moment of celebration of whatever it is that they were doing together celebrating the end of the season. And I loved it. I was absolutely absolutely hooked straight off... Straight away, straight off the bat as it were.

Well, both gave you community and gave you somewhere for the energy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable access to so much. I mean, the thing about team sport is it gives you an access point to lots of people at different ages when you're that age. Yeah. So I was 13, 14, and I was playing cricket with men, you know, who were in their fifties, sometimes sixties. You know? And and as I got better, you know, and and later on as I got worse as well, you know, you... There's no judgment in sport, I find. But there's... It doesn't matter whether you've got... Whether you're neurodiverse. It doesn't matter. Sports section? Yeah. But, you know, if you... To me, it never matters, and it still doesn't. Whether whether somebody's a.

Bricklayer or whether somebody's a hedge fund manager, It doesn't doesn't matter. I think that playing a sport is is a very... It's a collegiate... You're you're doing it together, and the spirit of it is a wonderful thing.

You kind of then moved, you said, like, following the year, you locked yourself away with queen meatloaf and madness, repeat. Yeah. The scraper seat. Yeah. Is. Yeah. Yeah. That was wild. I mean, that was crazy. I mean, I I remember when I got to about 14, about the same age, actually. When I got to about 14 and and I was in my first years... Year of GCCs, I just had a feeling. I I just knew I was I just... I was just horribly behind. And I... And for some reason, you know, often the case for me is that certain things stick in my head. My memory is pretty terrible, but, actually, certain things that I hold on to. And one of those things was that you've gotta pass English, maths, and science.

You know, that's... That was an absolute mess. That... Absolute must. And somebody had informed me that I... The one way to do this... Because I because I didn't really have much help at home with homework or anything. And, you know, at school, my... You know, I was considered to be naughty and and disruptive. But for some reason, again, somebody had told me, go in... Go to school, get all of the old... Get a load of old exam papers, and work through those because they essentially say the same thing, just kind of in a slightly framed differently. So I did. I just went in, and I got all the papers, particularly maths, actually. I I I just went in, got as many as I could, and I just locked myself away for.

I don't know, like, six or seven months. And I just played that music on repeat in this old kind of take ghetto blast blast that I had. And I would just go home and just do it. And I, you know, I I was really happy to do that. And then by the time I did my GCSEs, I scraped through with c's, you know, which which was enough to get me out of school. And then I went to college where I felt things really changed in a positive way. I was amongst people who I could really connect with there. It's different. I think people wanted to be there. That was the first thing. I think it was it... I I was I was surrounded by a lot of creative people. Cricket wasn't played at my school. I I really... I sat in that middle place at school between.

Neither the the intelligent kids and the children who were kind of considered to be the hard ones. And I just found it was just... I was constantly just trying to... I was quite young for my age. Like, I hadn't really matured very quickly. And when I went to when I went to college, I found that I wasn't judged as I was all the way through school. And I was dealing with teachers who were who were really prepared to listen to me. You know, I had this incredible English teacher called Jill Roberts who really changed the trajectory of my life, actually. Like, she... I... Not only did I do English. You know, I remember going into my first... Well, one of the first classes, and she... You know, there's only, yeah, 20 people.

Who were there all in... Just from different backgrounds, just still getting to know each other. It was just super fun. And the... She played the king... She played low... Lola by the kinks, and and she just said, right. I want you to point to work in groups and work out what this means. And it was just really fun. And I just... For the first time ever, really, I felt that I was enjoying learning, you know, in a in a.

.. And I felt slightly more understood, I think. Talking getting understood, let's talk about the diagnosis. You're diagnosed as an adult after someone's doing mental health work Yeah. With your team. They opened up a conversation. Take me back to that moment.

My diagnosis? Yeah. Well, I I don't know. I I... I'd always had an inkling there was something going on. Right? And then I was having therapy, which I started about ten years ago. And my and my therapist... You know, I've done quite a lot of work with this particular therapist on some of the things that were bothering me about my childhood. And and she just came out with it. She just said, look. You know, obviously, you've got ADHD. And she kinda said it as a matter of fact. You know? And I and I said, well, I mean, maybe, but I I... It's not something I've looked into. She said, you know, she sounded... We just... It just... It started a conversation about something that made me wanna understand more about it, and and I was quite.

Quick from that point to to make the decision to get an assessment and then a diagnosis. And when When it came back, like, how did you feel? Was it relief? Was it grief? Was it both? Like I... There's definitely... Undeniably, once I started to deconstruct what certain behaviors were as I was younger and even now, actually, it... There was a sense of relief. Like, there's there's no doubt that that sat in there. And, you know, it's nice not to feel like you're not this horrific young person that sometimes people with ADHD can can get painted to be. So I definitely felt that. But I also felt quite enabled, actually, about... And empowered.

About the type of person that I am and I've become because, you know, I think I was... There were times... There've been numerous times in my life where I could have gone down different routes. And I've, you know, I've swayed down some bad roads, certainly.

But, ultimately, I've kept myself moving forwards. We're always with a view to finding that balance that I mentioned. I resisted earlier when you're talking about your childhood, talking about your son, which you've said you're happy to happy to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Last time we met, you said watching your son is like reliving my childhood. Oh, yeah. It's reliving my life watching him. Yeah. What what do you want different for him? What do you want to change in his childhood?

Well, I mean, he he... Arthur, as he's grown up, he's just become... Like, he's just electric. Right? He's just... What was... So when I say it's like watching myself, I I think it's what I imagine I would have been like because he's just got such a build of energy, and it's put to good use. It's absolutely amazing. And, actually, these days, to answer your question directly, I think the the wonders of medical science, you know, I I was actually initially quite anti medication, you know, and then I kind of could see that it may... It was worth trying because he was having some serious struggles as he was... Know, turned eight, nine, 10 when it was really... His his ADHD and neurodiversity was starting to evolve. And, actually, I've.

Learned through him, actually, watching him go through, you know, the early stages of taking medication. And I've spoken to him all the way through that journey, and I've listened to what he's got to say. And he's been... It's been nothing but a positive interaction, which then led to me trying medication. And now I I I have medication, and I've I've been... Honestly, it's an absolute game changer. But but he is also surrounded by his sisters. He's got two sisters. He's got quite a deep family. You know? My wife's got lots of people on her side who are unbelievably supportive. You know? He has things around him in terms of the love and the and the kind of depth of that infrastructure.

It means that he will always feel... I I... The aim is for him to always feel safe and understood. And it... And it's a battle, like, listening to him, you know, going through his own journey. He he feels... When it comes to education, you know, he feels further behind the most, and he's fully aware of that, and it and it bothers him. So I I... Because I've lived that journey, I can kinda mentor him through it and try and help him realize that actually by doing certain things, he'll catch up. Right? And in other ways, he excels. So, I mean, sport, for example, you know, he's right up there.

And and some kids would love to have that ability. So we all have some skills we're good at and some we're not. You know? Been in to what Yeah. I I think so. Yeah. I mean, was lucky. That's not came to me. Right. They became my struck... That became my infrastructure to support me, I would say.

So I you're not planning to lock him in, listen to Queen Meatloaf?

No. No. I mean, I doubt... Maybe Meatloaf might be a stretch. Yeah.

One of the things, moving on to the Marathon des Sables, And you mentioned briefly about your thoughts and locking in. One of the real challenges around ADHD can be locking into negative thoughts. Yeah. And you had a big setback. So 2021, you go to the Marathon des Sables and you pull out after three days. Yeah. And you talk about coming home in peace. It's like, how did you... How did your ADHD brain react and how did you deal with that?

I think I was... I think there was a bit of... That was just after COVID as well. So there was this kind of quite elongated period of perhaps not understanding what some of the implications of being kind of creeped up in that way was for me. And, also, you know, I found work was extremely intense over that period even though we were obviously home based. But when I went to do... When I went to Morocco the first time, I think when I got back, I I think I was really disappointed with myself. I think the actual physical experience was utterly brutal. You know, I... A lot of things went wrong simultaneously, some of which I could have got in the way of actually through prep... Preparation.

But others that were just unlucky. You know, I got quite ill. The the heat... Well, look. It's a desert. Right? You go into these things knowing what you're gonna get, but but the heat was utterly crazy, like north of 50 degrees every day. And at night, it was 25 to 30 degrees in the evening. That that was crazier than normal for the Well, they they changed the time... Not that it's... Yes. The answer is yes, but they changed the time of the year that they ran the event.

Due to COVID. But but we... It it it was just a a whole array of things that happened. And I and I was one of those people who would always be almost slightly belligerent about people who were not successful on these events. And I I just thought that my my mental strength would always get me through. And I got absolutely taken to pieces by this thing. And then when I got home, I was I was just a bit of a battered emotional shell. I mean, if it was perfect, I could deal with it, but I'd I'd taken a proper kicking, which I then compounded by then going to to do one in the Arctic about three months later where I got hypothermia. So I just went from one extreme to the other.

And I think there was a lack of... Looking back, there was probably a slight lack of respect from me to these climates as well. I don't I don't think it was intentional, but I think I took you know, these are no... These areas deserve respect. Which... So that's the lesson. Right? They gave me an unbelievable depth of understanding about myself. And, also, you know, all the learning... I I found all the learning, really, is that's come from bad things in in life generally. They... That's where the really valuable stuff is. You you came.

Back from that and you picked up the phone to Ryan and said, let's go back and let's film it. Oh, it was crazy. Mean, that was that was, honestly.

That was an amazing example of how neurodiversity can be an incredibly powerful thing. You know? Because I've met Ryan at... He's an incredible videographer. I've met him at other events I've been at where he'd been... So I've been in a couple of running documentaries, if you like. And then I started to use Ryan a bit with work for events. And so he... His relationship and mine, he was very accessible to me. And then... And, literally, I just went, right. I'm gonna do it again. And I called him, and I think... He just said, yeah. What's the idea?

I pitched it to him for about five minutes. He just said, completely in. Let's do it. But but Ryan was, I mean, literally the perfect partner because not only was he brilliant in what he does and what he's produced, but actually he completely understood where I was coming from on it. And he... And I think fair enough to him. I'll I'll be forever grateful about it becoming a passion project for him too. Before, like, and then pushing yourself, like, you.

.. You'd like to punish yourself. But it's not it's not punishment. It's a push. Can you tell people about that to some, you know, people who aren't?

Yeah. Well, I don't... I'm not I'm not... Anybody who knows me will understand that I'm quite a chaotic individual. Yeah. I... I've I've just been and run something else and... Which we're gonna come on to probably. But anybody who's been with me for a prolonged period of time will realize that I... I'm a very optimistic glass half full person that will live my life in that manner, but I'm not a well planned individual. Like, I'm I'm late for everything. My memory, particularly my short term memory, is very, very poor.

And when I go on one of these races, it gives me a certain type of discipline. But, you know, it because it's not just from turning up and running. You have to prepare. I have a running coach now who I'm... Who I've got so much time for called Johnny Shield, who has really helped me. He sets me daily homework. He doesn't require me to talk to him all the time. He... I'm... He's just there when I need him. But I'm kind of respectful and fearful of him enough to kind of stick to the plan. But when I go on these events, you know, there's three to six months of training that goes into the prep. Yeah. And then there's the stuff to do with food because they're self sufficient.

You know, so it gives me focus in a way that I don't get in everyday life. I remember that from watching it the first time.

That that focus, that hyper focus on all the planning many people with ADHD will recognize the love of deep dive research and locking in. And you've talked earlier, you talked earlier about locking in to pass the exams. But you said... You said hyper focus isn't a superpower, with every up, there's a down. What do you mean by that? What does down look like? Well, I I think ADHD is not... I I don't put it in that category as a superpower.

Unless it's a very specific set of circumstances. I mean, most of the time, it's just utter chaos and trying to keep up with yourself and, you know, make sure you don't let people down. I think the, you know, the the the feeling of... You know, when you feel like you you don't really belong in things, you know, so there are various com... Complex sensations about not belonging, which I think are really valid lessons that we need to learn from. But, I mean, the the depress... I mean, depression is a word... I mean, I... I've been very lucky, really. I mean, I've I've never had I've had one bout of really difficult, what you might call a depressive effort episode, and that led me to starting my journey with with therapy.

But, actually, outside of that, I've I've been relatively untouched, but I've definitely used alcohol and drugs and work. It just doesn't matter. Any of those things, it just doesn't matter to me. Like, it's it's it's just a 100% that I'm full throttle on anything. Right? And and it... And that is unique and amazing on occasion, but, actually, what I'm really looking for is try and have a tempered down version of myself. So I I think I'm a danger to myself when things are going either really well or I don't have things to focus on. So whether that's a... Yeah. It's wild. Like, you know, if it's not the film, there are events we've run or starting up a business or, you know, there's just always ideas.

That I'm enabled to follow through with because of the way that I think. And these days, I'm very lucky to have people around me who who know me well enough through life and work who kind of stop me getting out of control. You know, now if I come up with a crazy idea, there... There's people who who respect me, who I feel respect me, who will stop me. But they'll just say, look, that's not a good one. You.

Mentioned self medicating just then. Mentioned and you've been honest before before running. You self medicated ways that weren't healthy. You mentioned drugs and alcohol. What would you say to someone who... Watching who recognizes that in themselves?

I'd say be brave enough to talk about it. I think it's... Look. I'm I'm not one of those people who... You know, I think everybody has vices, and I think it's up to the individual to to decide what they're going to do. But the manner in which the why is what's important. What what is that that structure, you know, doing for you? Yes. So if it's alcohol or drugs or gambling or sex or working, whatever it might be, what is it that it's doing for you? Because, again, if it's just covering up pain and and it gives peace to an otherwise very busy mind, you know, I I think that that's a difficult place to be. The relationships with all of those things can be managed.

But you've got to talk. And and I think the the biggest thing that the people with neurodiversity aren't... Don't do enough, and and those people around... Those people with neurodiversity don't do enough is talk and just open up. And, you know, I I know too many people who've who've either taken their own lives or allowed themselves to get to a point of depression as a result of not talking. And and it... It's such a shame. You know? It it it could... It doesn't have to go down that route. So dependency is circumstantial. You know, some people are gonna do drugs. Some people are gonna, you know, work too much, and some people are gonna drink. I mean, it's just part of the way that that some people are. You know? So rather than trying to.

Stop stop the mismatch, trying to understand the reasons why, I think, and then try and unpack it from that that perspective. You put.

Out the film, and then something ugly happened on IMDb. Oh, yes. Yes. So what happened? Well, we...

I I don't think it even occurred to me or Ryan at any point that we would get any negative press or energy as a result of the film. But for whatever reason, we started getting, you know, what I would call an onslaught of negative reviews. And I and I think probably part looking back retrospectively, we framed the film with ADHD first and then running second. And, actually, we probably should have role reversed that. But it was only ever... That that film... Although, you know, although the film was using me as a case study, and it was... It was... It... There certainly was an element of it being a bit of self study about my own reaction to a negative situation.

It... That being that I've, you know, I failed in the Marathon des Sables at the first time, it and was all about the rebuild and going back and and and doing it successfully. You know? So... But outside of that, it it was just a project that was designed to do good. You know, that that was all. We just wanted to try and get people talking, raise awareness. We had an amazing time doing it. But then we started getting these negative reviews, and it seemed... It was hard not to take that personally. I have... I've never been exposed to any kind of, like, you know, more broad brush kind of interaction with anybody outside of my own network of friends or family.

And, you know, it wasn't a particularly pleasant thing. It was a real kind of settler. I'm I'm much more comfortable with it now, but I hope people will see it for what it is. I mean, it... It's not a scientific, you know, documentary. It's... It doesn't give answers, and I think that's the thing that people felt frustrated by. I think that that it didn't... People watched this thing thinking that it was gonna kinda, like, be a a scientific study on the medical side, and it just wasn't that. And maybe that was partly to do with our framing of it, but I think some of the feedback was a little bit cruel. But, you know, I I I... If it helps.

One person, it's worth it. But but I'm not sure I'd rush back to take that type of feedback. You've made a new version. We have. Right. You've cut the film to twenty minutes.

Let's ask the first most obvious question. Why? I think... I'm glad the eye wasn't entirely cut. That would have been...

Yeah. Well, I think it'd be... Well, originally, it was about an hour. And I think one one of the things that we really wanted to do was to try and make it more accessible for people to watch in bite size. I think if if it... If we could get some momentum on it as well with a short... A shorter version, it might be something that could be encouraged within schools and places of learning. And I think, you know, the the mix between ultra running and the analysis of, you know, ADHD and what what what it can do for somebody is a positive. Hopefully, it's something that people connect with. But the other reason was that originally, rightly or wrongly, we made it available.

But it but it was a paid... Yeah. It was it was a film that people would buy, and it was all under the promise that we would... Oh, I think we had completely wrong views or understandings about it, making all sorts of amounts of ridiculous amounts of money and us being Well, no. Did remind... You did win two awards, which is very nice. But We did. Yes. Yeah. We know. Well, Ryan said that... That's no... I mean, Ryan's ability as a as a videographer is is, I mean, unbelievable. And the and the and the music score on the film is just insanely good. But what we've made it, it's just free. Right? We just wanted to make a free version. I think perhaps looking back, one of the regrets was that we.

Tried in some way to monetize it, but with a view to using the money to make other films. But actually now, twenty minute bite size, hopefully, people can download it, who love running, as well as wanna know a little bit about the the study that we've done about neurodiversity. But it's it's now just a better, cleaner version of what we have before.

And is there like... We touched on it earlier. So I want to... In February, went back to the Arctic and I did. You've you've cracked it. You most recently ran 230 kilometers in Kenya. Is there always a next one? Like, is there a next one? Well, actually.

Coming back from Kenya about two weeks ago, which was almost like a reward for myself because after the original MBS, then going to the Arctic and having two back to back failures, then went back to trying just to enjoy running. I needed to kinda deconstruct it. And then to round it all off, the kind of present to myself was to go back to Kenya for the third time, which is what I've just done. I just love that place. It's just... You get to run between five conservancies with the animals, and it's it's just a very spiritual experience learning about the landscape. And I and I and I can run there. I... It's it's a beautiful running race. And now I been back for two weeks. Like, my body's.

Kind of been a bit battered and bruised as it normally is after something like that, and I'm gonna... Give me two or three days, and I think I'll I'll be... I've got a few ideas.

Yeah. Always. You wrote in... I look forward to finding out. You wrote in Runners World. You don't need to run ultras. You don't need deserts or mountains. So what's the version for someone watching this on their sofa?

Of?

Escapism or like It's whatever. I mean, I Direction in their in their brain. Like, you've found it's a structure that's helped you.

Yeah. I I found... Look. I I was so lucky to connect with running. I mean, it's it's weird because I don't... I I get bored cycling and swimming strangely. But, actually, running for me, there's a simplicity as as a very good friend of mine says, which I love. He says, you know, running, eating, and drinking water and just constant physical movement, getting from that... This to that tree, to that hill, you know, and then eats and then eat, sleep, do it again. I mean, what what a... What an existence. I couldn't agree more. For me, there's a connection with nature, which is a... Which which has become a really important part of this for me. Running allows me a chance to think. You know, my brain is is extremely busy a lot of the time.

And I've learned how to coexist with it. You know? So, you know, at work, we've got boxes with lots of fidget toys and things. You know? I don't care if somebody goes and does 20 press ups in the meeting room. As long as they're... We can get the best out of them. But but for an individual who's looking for something, I I think you gotta find your thing. Right? You gotta you gotta find something that allows you to escape that isn't connected to perhaps, you know, everyday life with work or family.

Somewhere where you can just kind of reset yourself and truly let your brain have a bit of a holiday. Some people might be five k run. Some people, it might be significantly longer, and some people might wanna swim swim across the channel. Some people might wanna swim across the pool. You know? I mean, it it... It's whatever works. But to do nothing is is, I think, a mistake.

Everybody needs something. I think to find your thing.

Find your thing, I think. Be bold with it. You know? Try and, you know, try and make time for yourself. I mean, I know it's a bit cliche when people say be kind to yourself, but I I think I do agree. I think I I get that. Yeah. You can go out and, you know, let your hair down or have a have a great time. But I think that time where it's just about you is the... Is a real game changer. That's where the magic sits, I think. We're about to watch it. In the moment people watch it, what do you want them to feel? I just hope you enjoy it. And if it resonates, then try and... You know, if it resonates about family or children you know or friends, then there are.

Roots and solutions. And I I I I would always be prepared to discuss anything with anybody, but I think opening a dialogue, opening that door is the key. Right? That's the start. And and if it can get in the way of depression and future suicides and help people be happier, then it's gotta be a force for good.

It comes up in the film Statistics, Suicide, if anyone... There are links to crisis lines on the globaladhd.com page, people in The UK, Samaritans on 116123. Obviously that, so if anything's been hard to hear, hard to watch, do get that support, do contact and reach out to people. Simon Blair, thank you. Thank you for being an ADHD UK ambassador for being a role model for the success you've had and the inspiration you are.

Thank you. Thanks Henry.

Here's the first screening of your new cut Beyond Limits. Enjoy it now.